India orders phone makers to preload devices with state-owned cyber safety app

India has issued a directive requiring major smartphone manufacturers to pre-load its state-owned cybersecurity app, Sanchar Saathi, on new mobile devices. The app, which cannot be deleted by users, aims to combat cybercrime and hacking in the country. Apple, Samsung, Vivo, Oppo, and Xiaomi are among the companies that have been asked to comply with this requirement.

The 90-day deadline for implementation has sparked concerns among privacy advocates, who argue that it effectively removes user consent as a meaningful choice. Mishi Choudhary, a technology lawyer, stated that this is "cause for concern" and raises questions about the balance between national security and individual freedoms.

India's move is not an isolated one; Russia has also implemented similar regulations for its own state-backed messenger app, Max. The Sanchar Saathi app has already shown promise in recovering lost phones, with over 700,000 devices tracked since its launch in January.

The app works by linking a unique 14- to 17-digit IMEI number to each phone's SIM card, which can be blocked and terminated if the device is reported as stolen. This technology helps prevent cyber threats and assists law enforcement in tracking down lost or stolen phones.

While Apple has historically refused government requests to pre-load third-party apps on its devices before sale, it may be willing to negotiate a compromise with the Indian authorities. Tarun Pathak, a research director at Counterpoint, noted that "it's likely to seek a middle ground: instead of a mandatory pre-install, they might negotiate and ask for an option to nudge users towards installing the app."

As India's phone market continues to grow, this development highlights the country's growing emphasis on cybersecurity and national security. However, it also raises questions about the impact on user choice and data protection, sparking debate among tech experts and policymakers.
 
I'm low-key worried about this new app thingy in India ๐Ÿค”. I mean, I get why they wanna combat cybercrime and all that, but isn't it kinda invasive to just preload an app on our devices without asking? It's like, what if we don't want it or don't need it? Can't we still have some control over what's on our phones? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ Anyway, I guess it's cool that they're trying to keep the country safe, but I think there's gotta be a better way to do it without sacrificing user freedom. Maybe just give 'em an option or something? ๐Ÿค— https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59451446
 
omg, i just got a new phone and its so slow ๐Ÿ˜ด... anyway, back to this news... i dont get why they cant just make us install it voluntarily? its like, we should be able to choose what apps we want on our phones ๐Ÿค”... or can apps just detect if ur phone is stolen or not? that would be so cool ๐Ÿ’ป... but at the same time, i guess its good that india is taking cybersecurity seriously ๐Ÿ”’... how much data does this app collect tho? ๐Ÿ“Š
 
๐Ÿค” I'm all for beefing up cybersecurity in India, but come on! ๐Ÿ™„ They're making us install some government app that can't be deleted? That's just plain creepy ๐Ÿ˜ณ. Like, what if I wanna get rid of it because it's bugging me or something? Don't they trust their users to make a decision for themselves?

And don't even get me started on the 90-day deadline ๐Ÿ•’. If Apple and other manufacturers can't handle that kind of pressure, maybe they should just rethink their entire business model ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

It's like, I get it, cybercrime is a big deal, but this isn't the answer ๐Ÿšซ. Can't we find some other way to prevent hacking and cyber threats without sacrificing our freedom to choose? ๐Ÿค

And have you seen how they're tracking devices now? ๐Ÿ“Š It's like they're collecting info on us without asking ๐Ÿค. I mean, I know it's for national security and all that, but come on, can't we find a better way to do it?

Anyway, I guess this is just one of those things where you've gotta take the good with the bad ๐Ÿ’ฏ. Can't have perfect cybersecurity without sacrificing some user freedom ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
Wow! ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ“ฑ this is wild...India is basically forcing phone manufacturers to preload their own app on new devices? That's a lot of control over user experience...Interesting how some companies like Apple might be willing to negotiate for an "option" instead of full compliance though, hope it doesn't slip into a backdoor for the government ๐Ÿค”
 
omg i think its so cool that india is taking steps to combat cybercrime ๐Ÿคฉ!! the fact that over 700k devices have already been tracked since launch of sanchar saathi is like wow ๐Ÿš€... but at the same time im a little worried about user consent and data protection ๐Ÿค”.. dont get me wrong, national security is super important, but we gotta make sure our personal info is protected too ๐Ÿ’ป... i hope apple can work with india to find a compromise that works for everyone ๐Ÿคž
 
๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ“ฑ๐Ÿšจ this is a big deal, you know? ๐Ÿคฏ India is trying to keep its citizens safe online by making cybersecurity app mandatory ๐Ÿ™Œ but at what cost? ๐Ÿค‘ people's privacy is being compromised because they can't delete the app ๐Ÿšซ it's like being forced to install adware ๐Ÿœ 90 days is a good start, but let's hope Apple and other big players find a middle ground ๐Ÿ’ญ maybe they can make the app optional or give users more control ๐Ÿค
 
๐Ÿค” I'm kinda split on this one... on one hand, pre-loading a cybersecurity app seems like a good way to protect users from cyber threats. But at the same time, I can see why some people would be worried about giving up control over their own devices. Like, what if they really don't want the app and still manage to install it? It's like, what's the balance between keeping everyone safe and respecting individual freedom? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ And I'm curious to see how this plays out with other companies... will they cave under pressure or try to find a compromise like Apple might do? ๐Ÿ’ป
 
๐Ÿค” I'm not sure how I feel about this new directive from India ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ. On one hand, it's great that they're prioritizing cybersecurity and taking steps to combat cybercrime ๐Ÿ’ป. But on the other hand, I think it's a bit concerning that users won't have control over whether or not to install this app ๐Ÿšซ. I mean, who doesn't want to decide for themselves what apps are installed on their phone? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ It feels like an overreach by the government ๐Ÿ“Š.

And what's next? Are they going to start requiring pre-installed antivirus software too? ๐Ÿงน I don't think so... or do they? ๐Ÿ˜’
 
I'm all for having some kind of balance between keeping our devices safe from cyber threats and not messing with our personal freedom ๐Ÿค”. I mean, we've all lost phones or had them stolen before, it's frustrating enough without the government telling us what to do with our own tech ๐Ÿ“ฑ.

But 90 days is a pretty short deadline for companies like Apple to adapt, and I'm worried they'll just find ways to circumvent it ๐Ÿค–. And what about users who don't want to use this app? Are we really going to have to opt out of the phone sale if we don't download this thing? That sounds pretty controlling to me ๐Ÿšซ.

I do think India's move is an interesting one, and I'm curious to see how it all plays out. But at the same time, I hope they're not setting a precedent for other countries to follow with similar regulations... that could get messy ๐Ÿ”’.
 
๐Ÿ“ฑ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ˜ฌ Sanchar Saathi: because who needs user consent anyway? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ 700k devices tracked so far... but at what cost? ๐Ÿ“Š๐Ÿ’ป [source: Distracted Boyfriend](https://tenor.co/gf1zVx)
 
โš ๏ธ just thinking about this...India's move is a slippery slope. I'm all for safety and security, but taking away our choice to opt out? That's a big deal. ๐Ÿค” And what's the long game here? Is it really just about recovering lost phones or are they trying to monitor user activity too? ๐Ÿ“Š๐Ÿ‘€
 
I'm not loving this new move by India ๐Ÿค”. It feels like they're taking away our freedom to choose what we want on our phone. I mean, who wants some app they can't even delete? ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ The whole point of having a smartphone is that you have control over your own device. But now, it sounds like the government's got its foot in the door... not cool ๐Ÿ‘Ž.

And what about user consent, right? If we're all required to download this app, how can we really say we're giving our informed consent? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ It feels like they're playing a catch-up game with cybersecurity, but at what cost?

It's interesting that Apple and other major brands are already talking about finding ways around this. Maybe they can come up with some compromise, like a nudge instead of a full-on pre-load. That way, users still have a choice ๐Ÿค”. But overall, I'm just not sure I'm cool with this new directive ๐Ÿ˜
 
im worried about where all this is leading... I mean, I get it, cybercrime is a huge issue in india, but do we really need an app that can't be deleted? ๐Ÿค” it's like they're saying "sorry, your choice isn't good enough for our country". and what happens to user data when we have apps like this just being shoved down our throats? ๐Ÿšซ I'm sure there are better ways to encourage people to use cybersecurity tools... this feels like a giant leap in the wrong direction ๐Ÿš€
 
๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ“ฑ why do u need 2 be forced 2 install a cyber sec app? ๐Ÿ™„

![a screenshot of Sanchar Saathi being pre-loaded on an iPhone](https://example.com/image.jpg)

๐Ÿ’ป๐Ÿ‘€ the line between national security & user privacy gets blurred when govts start making decisions 4 us ๐Ÿ˜’
 
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