Trump's Venezuela boat strikes fuel war crimes allegations. Are they legal?

US Military Strikes in Venezuela Raise Questions About War Crimes Allegations

The Trump administration's military strikes against suspected drug smugglers in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific have sparked intense scrutiny over allegations of war crimes. The latest revelations, including a second strike that killed two survivors, have raised questions about the legality of the US military operations.

Critics argue that the strikes were not authorized by Congress, as required under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, which limits the president's ability to wage war without congressional approval. The administration claims that the strikes are part of a "non-international armed conflict" with drug cartels, but experts say this designation is flawed.

"The claim of a non-international armed conflict is a stretch," says Michael Schmitt, a law professor at the University of Miami. "The US is not in an armed conflict with these groups because they do not have a military hierarchy or capacity to engage in combat operations."

Designating drug cartels as terrorist organizations does not grant the administration authority to use military force in the same way it would be exercised against countries or organized armed groups, according to experts.

"There's nothing magic about calling something a terrorist organization that then gives the president the authority to respond militarily," says Victor Hansen, a former military prosecutor and law professor at New England Law Boston. "If we're not in an armed conflict to begin with, then the whole paradigm, the legal paradigm of the laws that govern an armed conflict, don't apply."

The second strike on October 16, which killed two survivors, has sparked debate about whether it constitutes a war crime. Some lawmakers and military experts say that if the reporting is accurate, this action does indeed violate international law.

"It's hard to find words to describe the horror of what happened," says Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky. "I think there's a broad consensus that it's illegal to kill people who are clinging to wreckage."

The Trump administration's characterization of the strikes as an "armed conflict" imposes additional duties and responsibilities on how the strikes are carried out, according to Hansen.

"The president, he wants it both ways," says Hansen. "He wants to call it an armed conflict, but then he doesn't even want to follow the rules of the armed conflict."

As the US military continues its operations in the region, critics are pressing for more transparency and accountability. Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has called the second strike a war crime.

"The basic rules of war that are involved here make very clear that you do not strike wounded people in the water in order to kill them," Panetta said. "You basically then are responsible to try to make sure you do everything to try to protect their lives at that point."

The US Southern Command announced another strike on Thursday, killing four in the Eastern Pacific.
 
idk man... πŸ€” i just read this news and im all like yeah us military strikes are bad and should be held accountable but then again what if these ppl were really smuggling dope and posing a threat to amerika? like is it even fair to assume theyre innocent? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

on the other hand, like, shouldn't there be some kind of congressional approval before we start killing people in the name of "national security"? i mean, isnt that kinda what we say when we want to go to war with sombody? πŸ™„

and omg those lawmakers are all like "war crime" and im over here like "hold up guys lets not jump to conclusions" πŸ˜‚

i dont know man... maybe its just me but it feels like the us military is trying to have it both ways again. wanna be all tough on terrorism but also follow some basic rules of war? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ it just seems so contradictory to me
 
I'm getting super worried about these recent strikes by the US military in Venezuela πŸ€•πŸŒͺ️. Like, what's going on here? These allegations of war crimes are not just some baseless claims, they're backed up by reports from survivors and experts who know what they're talking about. The fact that the administration is trying to justify these strikes as part of a "non-international armed conflict" with drug cartels is just laughable 🀣.

I mean, think about it - if you're caught in the crossfire between two groups, you shouldn't be the ones who end up getting killed by military forces. It's not like the US is at war with these people, they're just trying to smuggle some stuff. And now we're seeing reports of survivors being left to drown after a strike, and it's just heartbreaking πŸ’”.

We need more transparency and accountability from our government, ASAP πŸ•°οΈ. We can't just sit back and let them sweep this under the rug. It's time for us to hold our leaders accountable and make sure that they're not perpetuating war crimes in the name of "security".
 
I'm getting really worried about this situation in Venezuela πŸ€•πŸ’” Those military strikes just don't feel right to me... It's like they're disregarding human life and international law πŸ’₯😱 I mean, can you imagine if it was your family member or friend who got caught in the crossfire? It would be a total nightmare 😩

And what really gets my goat is that the administration claims these strikes are part of some "non-international armed conflict" with drug cartels 🀣 Like, come on! You can't just conjure up this definition to justify military action πŸ’β€β™€οΈ Those experts say it's a stretch and that the US isn't even in an armed conflict with these groups πŸ”

We need more transparency and accountability from our leaders 🀝 It's time for them to take responsibility for their actions and make sure we're not violating human rights or international law 🌎
 
my heart is with those 2 survivors who were killed during that tragic incident πŸ€•πŸ’” it's just not right that innocent people got caught in the crossfire of a military operation. the fact that lawmakers are calling for war crimes charges shows that we all need to be held accountable for our actions, especially when it comes to protecting human life. 😞
 
🚨πŸ’₯ think this is a big deal πŸ€”. i made a simple mind map to visualize it:

US military strikes
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---> War Powers Resolution (1973)
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Congress required authorization
| unauthorized
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Allegations of war crimes

see? the problem is that trump's admin says its not an international armed conflict, but experts disagree πŸ€”. and now there are more strikes with more civilian casualties πŸ’€. it's like, if you call something a terrorist organization, does that automatically grant you military power? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

anyway, i think this whole thing is super concerning 🚨. we need transparency and accountability from the us government. former defense secretary panetta said it loud and clear: striking wounded people in the water to kill them is a war crime πŸŒŠπŸ’”.
 
πŸ€”πŸ’£πŸŒŠοΈ This whole situation is super sketchy πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ. I mean, how can you just call it an "armed conflict" when they're not even fighting like a country or something? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ It's like the US military is trying to justify what they did by saying they're not in a war, but really they are kinda sorta in a war with these cartels πŸ’₯. And now there's all this debate about whether it's a war crime or not, and honestly I don't know what to think 🀯. Can't the US just follow some basic rules of war? πŸ™„πŸ˜‘
 
πŸ€” I'm really confused about this whole thing. It sounds like the US military is saying they're not even in a war with these drug smugglers, but then they're still using military force against them. Like, isn't that just, like, super weird? πŸ˜• And if it's not an actual war, why are they getting to decide who lives or dies without having to follow some rules?

I mean, I guess it makes sense that the government would want to claim it's a "non-international armed conflict" because that sounds like a lot of fancy law stuff. But if it's not really an armed conflict, then shouldn't we just be talking about, like, regular old police work or something? πŸš”

And what's with all these experts saying that the strikes are basically war crimes? 🀯 Like, isn't that pretty obvious when you see people getting killed by military force without even being given a chance to surrender? It seems pretty clear to me that just because we're not in a declared war, it doesn't mean we get to act like we're above the law. 🚫
 
I'm thinking, is the Trump admin trying to flex its military muscles here? They're already walking a thin line with Congress and international law... I mean, if they say it's an armed conflict but don't follow the rules, that's not exactly reassuring. And then there's this business about calling them terrorists and getting away with using military force – that just doesn't sit right. πŸ€”

I'm also wondering what's going on in Venezuela, is this some kind of proxy war? It feels like they're trying to exert influence without actually having a clear plan or justification. And these allegations of war crimes... if the US can't even get its own military operations straight, how are we supposed to trust them when it comes to international law and human rights?

It's all just so frustrating – is this really what the US wants to be known for? Can't they find a better way to tackle their problems than resorting to force like this? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
omg this is so messed up 🀯 the us military striking people who were just trying to escape is like literally a war crime 🚫 what's next are they gonna start dropping bombs on civilians trying to flee their homes? 😱 it's like they're making it up as they go along with these "war crimes" allegations and claiming it's all legit but honestly it sounds super fishy 🐟 i'm so frustrated for the people of venezuela and the entire region who are getting caught in the middle of this mess πŸ€•
 
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