Juries make baffling, flawed, human decisions. That's why we must keep them | Gaby Hinsliff

The British justice system is on the brink of collapse, with a judicial backlog that shows no signs of abating. The root cause of this crisis isn't the inherent flaws in the jury trial process itself, but rather a lack of funding for public services.

In reality, juries aren't as dodgy as they're often made out to be. While it's true that 12 individuals can bring different perspectives and biases to the table, it's also true that this collective effort can sometimes lead to more nuanced decision-making than what a single judge might produce.

Jury trials offer a crucial safeguard against the politicisation of the courts, which is an ever-present threat in today's climate. Judges are appointed by the government, leaving them vulnerable to being hijacked by future administrations with ill intent. By contrast, juries represent a more democratic and inclusive form of justice, where defendants are judged by their peers rather than a highly trained lawyer.

However, the current backlog is largely the result of chronic underfunding, which has gummed up the system across various public services that support it. This isn't just about the courts themselves; mobile phone data analysis, probation reports, and social worker assessments all take time and resources to process.

The Leveson review's proposals to reduce or eliminate jury trials in certain cases are a cynical attempt to cut costs without addressing the underlying issues driving the backlog. By scrapping jury trials altogether, the government can save some money on court sitting time – 20%, to be exact – but it won't solve the problem.

In fact, removing juries would only serve as a Band-Aid solution for a far more complex issue: public reluctance to pay for services we need. The real challenge lies in addressing the systemic problems that have led to this crisis in the first place.

As the saying goes, justice delayed is justice denied. But let's hope that our politicians don't confuse cost-cutting with justice itself. Instead of opting for a quick fix that undermines the integrity of our justice system, we need to take a more nuanced approach – one that tackles the root causes of this crisis and prioritises investment in public services over short-term cost savings.

The real question is: what's the alternative?
 
I'm worried about where this is all going 🤔. We're talking about the backbone of our justice system, which should be fair and just for everyone. It seems to me that we need more funding and support, not less. I mean, who doesn't want a system that's got everything working together smoothly? 📈

I'm also really glad that people are talking about this now, because it was always going to come to a head at some point. The thing is, the government can't just magic up more money out of thin air... but they need to do something. They've got to find a way to make public services work better for everyone.

I'm not saying we should be naive about how this all works, but I think there's a fine line between being fiscally responsible and being short-sighted. We need to keep the bigger picture in mind here... 🌆
 
can't believe they wanna scrap jury trials like its gonna fix everything lol 🤣 think it's just gonna be another example of gov cutting costs 4 short term gains & not addressing the real issues. we need more investment in public services, not less. this backlog is a symptom of deeper problems like underfunding & systemic issues, not just a problem with juries themselves. what's the alternative?
 
I think its gonna be tough for the UK to get its judicial system back on track. The whole funding thing is a mess 🤯. If they try to cut costs by scrapping jury trials, its just gonna lead to more problems down the line. And you're right, what's the alternative? Need some serious investment in public services, like mobile phone data analysis and social worker assessments. Can't just slap a band-aid on it and expect everything to be okay 💸
 
man i feel like we're stuck in this cycle of thinking that more money means better justice system but it's not that simple 🤯 the problem runs deeper than just funding, it's about how we prioritize our values as a society do we really want to cut costs at the expense of fairness and representation? or are we just trying to balance the books without considering the long-term consequences?
 
🤔 I mean, come on... back in my day, we didn't have all these fancy technology things to speed up court processes. But you know what? We still managed just fine! It was a lot more slow and tedious, sure, but it was also way more personal. I remember one time, I had a friend who was in court for a minor thing, and the judge took the time to really listen to both sides and ask questions. Now, with all these new-fangled tools and whatnot, it's like they're trying to rush through things without even thinking about it.

And don't even get me started on this whole "Band-Aid solution" thing. It's just throwing a few temporary fixes at the problem without addressing the real issues. We need to be serious about fixing our justice system, not just patching up the symptoms. 🤷‍♂️
 
I think the UK is at a really interesting crossroads right now 🤔. I know some people might be like "the system is broken, we need to get rid of juries altogether" 💸, but I'm not so sure... Like, have you seen all those court cases just piling up? It's gotta be causing some serious stress for the whole justice system, right? 🤯

And I totally agree that underfunding is a big part of the problem - it's like, if they invested more in stuff like social work and data analysis, they might actually be able to process all these cases a bit faster 😊. But scrapping juries altogether seems like a super short-sighted solution to me... Like, what about all those defendants who don't have a voice? 🤷‍♀️

We need to have a bigger conversation about how we're funding our public services - it's not just about cutting costs, it's about making sure everyone has access to justice 🌟. I mean, the Leveson review might be trying to save some money, but is that really what we want? Shouldn't we be focusing on making things better, not just cheaper 💖?
 
I don't usually comment but I think the author of this article hits the nail on the head 🤔. The whole thing feels like a classic case of "cost-cutting" vs "doing what's right". It's not just about scrapping jury trials, it's about addressing the root cause of the problem - our society's willingness to sacrifice public services for short-term gains 💸.

I mean, we've been hearing about this judicial backlog for years now and still, nothing changes 🕰️. It's like we're all waiting for someone else to fix it instead of taking ownership ourselves 🤷‍♀️. We need to stop being so quick to blame the system and start working on solutions that actually address the underlying issues 💡.

I don't know about you guys but I'd rather pay a few extra pennies per month in taxes than risk our justice system crumbling altogether 💸🚫. It's not about being rich or poor, it's about doing what's right for our community 👥.
 
Ugh, don't even get me started on this 🙄... I mean, think about it, they're trying to cut costs by eliminating jury trials but that just means they're gonna end up cutting corners in other areas. Like, what's next? Cutting funding for social services and expecting people to magically pay for their own needs? It's like they're trying to create a system where only the wealthy have access to justice 😬. And what about all the 'cost-saving' measures that actually just benefit the companies making money off of our court system? This whole thing feels like a giant conspiracy 🤑...
 
I feel so frustrated about the state of our justice system 🤯. I mean, who doesn't think juries are a great idea? They bring a different perspective to each case and it's actually super important for making fair decisions 🙌. The fact that we're even considering getting rid of them just because of funding issues is crazy 🤑. It's not like they're the only solution or anything.

And can we talk about how underfunded everything is? 🤦‍♀️ I mean, we can't expect the courts to function properly if mobile phone data analysis and probation reports are still taking ages to process ⏰. That's just basic 😒.

The government needs to stop looking for quick fixes and start addressing the real issues 💡. It's not just about cutting costs, it's about investing in our public services and making sure everyone has access to justice 🌟. We need a more nuanced approach that actually solves the problem, not just puts a Band-Aid on it 👍.
 
I'm getting really worried about our justice system 🤯. It's like they're trying to cut corners without even thinking about how it'll affect people's lives. I mean, who wants to play a game of chance with their freedom just because the system can't handle it? And what about those innocent people stuck in court for years waiting for their case to be heard? It's heartbreaking.

I think we need to look at this from a different angle. Instead of scrapping jury trials altogether, let's talk about how we're gonna fund our courts and support services. Maybe there are ways to make it more efficient without cutting costs so drastically. I mean, have you seen those probation reports? They must take forever to process! Let's find a way to streamline that.

I also feel like politicians are using this as an excuse to cut corners instead of finding real solutions 🤔. We need to prioritize our justice system and make sure it's working for everyone, not just the ones with deep pockets. It's time for some serious investment and a long-term plan, not just quick fixes that might end up doing more harm than good 💸.
 
🤔 I'm so frustrated with the state of our courts right now. It feels like they're just throwing a Band-Aid solution at the problem without even trying to fix the root cause. Removing juries would be a huge step backwards, we need to invest in public services not just cut costs. The thought of our justice system being politicized is super scary too, I'm all for having more of a say in how justice is served, not less 🤷‍♀️.
 
I'm so glad I stumbled upon this article 🤯! The state of our British justice system is literally heartbreaking. Like, have you seen the queues at court? It's like a never-ending nightmare 😩. And it's not just about the backlog; it's about the people who are suffering because of it.

I totally disagree with scrapping jury trials altogether 🙅‍♀️. I mean, sure, they're not perfect, but what is? The point is that they represent a way for our community to come together and make decisions based on facts, not just party lines 🤝. And let's be real, politicians are always going to try to manipulate the system for their own gain 🤑.

The real solution lies in fixing the funding issues 💸. Like, where does all that money go? Is it really being used to support public services? I think we need a more transparent system so we can see how our tax dollars are being spent 💪.

We need to have a national conversation about this and find a way to make justice affordable for everyone 🗣️. No more cutting corners or looking for quick fixes! We deserve better than that 💕.
 
I'm so worried about the state of our courts 🤕. It seems like they're trying to fix the symptoms but not the problem, you know? I mean, juries aren't all bad – they bring different perspectives and stuff, which can be super useful in certain cases. And it's true that judges are appointed by the government, so that is a risk.

But at the same time, I get why people want to reduce costs and all that. I was reading an article last year about how much mobile phone data analysis costs – crazy right? It's like, we need to invest in our public services, not just cut costs willy-nilly.

I don't think scrapping jury trials is the answer either. That's just a band-aid solution, as you said 🤷‍♀️. We need to tackle the root cause of the problem – which is, like, people being reluctant to pay for services we need in the first place.

It's all so... complicated 😩. I wish our politicians would take a more nuanced approach and prioritize investment in public services over short-term cost savings. That way, we can actually fix the system and make it work for everyone 🤞.
 
I'm not sure how many times I gotta say it - we can't just cut corners when it comes to our justice system 🤔. The idea that scrapping jury trials will solve our problem is a total cop-out, in my opinion 💸. We need to be looking at the bigger picture here and addressing the lack of funding for public services, not just slapping a Band-Aid on the symptoms.

I mean, think about it - what's the real cost of juries? It's not like they're breaking the bank or something 🤑. The real problem is that we're not prioritizing investment in our justice system. We need to be looking at ways to make it more efficient and effective, not cutting corners.

And let's not forget about the people who are affected by this backlog - the ones who are waiting for their cases to be heard 🕰️. They deserve better than a half-baked solution that's just going to kick the can down the road. We need real solutions, not just quick fixes 🚫.
 
🤔 The notion that juries are inherently flawed due to the collective effort required to reach a verdict can be somewhat misleading. It's true that 12 individuals with diverse perspectives might lead to more nuanced decision-making, but this doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing – sometimes it's exactly what we need in a system that prides itself on fairness and representation.

Rather than scapegoating juries for the crisis, we should be focusing on the systemic issues driving it. Chronic underfunding of public services is a far more insidious problem than the current backlog, and it's only by addressing this root cause that we can hope to see meaningful change 📊💡
 
idk wut's goin on wit da brits jusyce systim. its got me worried! 1 in 5 caes r still waitin 2 b triald cuz ther ain't enuf funding 4 da systim. i think juries r a good ting, not just 4 makin judgements but also 4 keepin politicians from manipulatin tht. we need 2 figger out wha's goin wrong w/ public funding rathur than jus scrappin jury trials. its all abt prioritizin investment n da systim, innit?
 
I'm all about juries being dodgy 🤔. I mean, have you seen those 12 individuals just chillin' in a room together, trying to make life-or-death decisions? It's like a recipe for disaster! 😂 Just kidding, sort of. But seriously, can we really trust that a group of people with different perspectives won't bring their own biases to the table?

And don't even get me started on politicians trying to cut costs by scrapping jury trials 🤑. It's like they think we're all just about saving pennies and ignoring the actual issues at hand. Newsflash: juries aren't the problem, chronic underfunding is! 💸 We need to be addressing the root causes of this crisis, not just patching things up with a quick fix.

I'm so done with politicians promising "solutions" without actually providing any real solutions 🙄. Can we please just have a honest discussion about what's really going on here and what we can do to fix it? 💬
 
I feel like I've seen this happen before in my own school project where our class had so many reports to write about different social issues, but we didn't have enough funding to get all the help we needed. It was really frustrating and it felt like no matter how hard we tried, there just weren't enough resources to go around 🤔

I don't think scrapping jury trials would be the answer either, I mean our school has a similar system where we vote on class projects and stuff, and it always seems to work out pretty well. Plus, having a group of peers who care about the same thing can make all the difference in coming up with creative solutions 💡

The problem is that people are more concerned with saving money than finding real solutions. My friends and I were talking about this last week and we realized that our school's budget has been cut so many times over the years, it's like they're trying to give up on us 😔
 
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