St. Paul City Council pushes back vote for review of police use of force during ICE operation

St. Paul City Council Delays Vote Amid Ongoing Controversy Over Police Use of Force During ICE Operation

The St. Paul City Council has delayed a vote on a resolution aimed at investigating police use of force during last week's federal immigration operation, sparking further concerns from community members and city officials.

In the wake of two arrests in the Payne-Phalen neighborhood, where officers were seen deploying chemical irritants and projectiles, all seven council members, Mayor Melvin Carter, and Mayor-elect Kaohly Her have raised questions about the role of St. Paul police during the operation. The department's actions have been disputed by community leaders, who claim that the officers' presence was excessive and unnecessary.

The city council had initially called for a "thorough investigation" into the use of force and adherence to the city's separation ordinance, which prohibits municipal employees from enforcing federal immigration policies. However, after reviewing the language of the resolution, City Council President Rebecca Noecker has announced that the council is taking extra time to ensure it gets it right.

The Police Civilian Internal Affairs Review Commission has already voted unanimously in favor of an independent investigation into the matter. The commission will present its findings to the city's Office of Financial Services, which will also be asked to determine the costs associated with the operation.

According to Police Chief Axel Henry, St. Paul officers were acting within their authority by enforcing laws and preventing potential breaches of public safety. However, community members remain skeptical about the department's actions and have called for greater transparency and accountability.

The city council now plans to introduce the resolution and vote on it at next week's meeting, marking an important step in addressing the ongoing controversy over police use of force during the ICE operation.
 
Ugh, can't believe the St Paul City Council is delaying this vote again ๐Ÿคฏ... like they really need more time to "get it right". I mean, come on, you're basically giving a green light for the cops to just keep doing whatever they want and not being held accountable. And what's with all these extra steps? The Police Civilian Internal Affairs Review Commission is already saying they want an independent investigation... does that really need more review? ๐Ÿค” Just get it done already!
 
I'm so confused about this whole thing... I mean, you gotta be kidding me right? They're gonna investigate themselves? That's like asking a fox to guard the henhouse ๐Ÿคฃ. Just give it an outside agency and let them figure it out. And what's with all the back-and-forth between the city council and the police chief? Can't they just get on the same page already? I'm tired of all these delays and excuses... In my day, we didn't have all these fancy words and rules to hide behind. We just called it like we saw it and moved forward ๐Ÿ™„.
 
I'm thinking we need a flowchart ๐Ÿค” to visualize this whole situation:

+---------------+
| Community |
| Concerns |
+---------------+
|
|
v
+---------------+
| City Council |
| Delays Vote |
+---------------+
|
|
v
+---------------+ +---------------+
| Investigation | | Resolution |
| into Police | | and Costs |
+---------------+ +---------------+
| |
| Transparency & Accountability |
v v
+---------------+ +---------------+
| Greater Oversight | | Community Trust |
| of Police Actions | | Restored |
+---------------+ +---------------+

We need more transparency and accountability from the police department ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ, and it's good that the city council is taking extra time to get it right. But we also need to see some real change on the ground ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
This whole thing is just crazy ๐Ÿคฏ... I mean, you'd think that after everything we've seen in recent years, our city officials would be all about transparency and accountability, but here we are again, questioning what went down. I'm not buying the "police were just doing their job" excuse ๐Ÿ™„... two arrests in a residential area with chemical irritants? That's excessive, plain and simple. And now they're saying it might take months to figure out if any laws were broken? Come on! We need answers now, not some fancy investigation that'll just lead to more delays ๐Ÿ’”
 
Ugh, can't believe this is still happening ๐Ÿ™„. Delaying a vote just means more time for the cops to spin their story and for the city council to get steamrolled by internal politics. I mean, come on, they knew what was going on already - the community's been complaining for weeks! Now they're just buying themselves some extra time to figure out how to fix things without actually doing anything concrete.

And can we talk about how ridiculous it is that the Police Civilian Internal Affairs Review Commission has already voted in favor of an independent investigation? That's like, so obvious! Why are they even doing all this drama? It feels like the city council is just going through the motions at this point. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
๐Ÿ˜ this delay is just a smokescreen, you know? they're trying to sweep this under the rug. I mean, who needs transparency when you've got "extra time" to get it right? ๐Ÿค” it's like they're covering up something big. all that talk about community leaders being skeptical... yeah right. they're just making a show for the cameras while the real agenda unfolds in secret. ๐Ÿ”
 
I'm all about seeing some transparency here ๐Ÿค”. Can't believe they're even debating whether or not they did anything wrong...it seems kinda obvious that using chemical irritants and projectiles is excessive ๐Ÿ˜ณ. The fact that there's a commission looking into it is good, but we need concrete actions taken, like actual accountability for the officers involved ๐Ÿšจ. It's not just about "doing their job" - it's about respecting the community they serve ๐Ÿ‘Š.
 
๐Ÿšจ The truth will set you free, but not before it hurts a little ๐Ÿค•. It's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to issues like police accountability and community trust. I hope the city council gets it right next time around ๐Ÿ’ฏ. This whole situation is a perfect example of how important transparency and accountability are in our law enforcement systems ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿ’ผ.
 
OMG this is getting outta hand ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ˜ก I'm all for getting to the bottom of what went down during that ICE op but delaying the vote just means more time for people to get anxious ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. Can't they just introduce the resolution already and let the community decide? ๐Ÿ™„ We need transparency here, like, pronto ๐Ÿ’จ! And can we pls make sure that those officers who acted all out of line are held accountable? ๐Ÿš”๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ They were using chemical irritants and projectiles?! That's just crazy talk ๐Ÿ˜ฒ. I mean I get it, safety first, but come on... ๐Ÿ˜’
 
I donโ€™t usually comment but I think this whole situation with the St Paul police is really messed up ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Community members are right to be skeptical about the department's actions, especially when it comes to using chemical irritants and projectiles on people who aren't even suspects yet. It just feels like a lot of unnecessary aggression to me.

And can we talk about how this whole thing is being handled by the city council? They're trying to have a thorough investigation but then they're delaying the vote... it's just gonna keep getting pushed around, right? ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ I hope next week's meeting brings some real answers and consequences for those responsible. We need to know what happened and why this kind of thing is happening in our city.

The Police Civilian Internal Affairs Review Commission is doing their part by voting for an independent investigation, which is great ๐Ÿ‘. But the city needs to take a closer look at its own policies and procedures too. How can we trust the police when they're not even following the rules themselves? ๐Ÿค” It's time for some real change in St Paul, you know? ๐Ÿ’ช
 
Ugh, this is like something out of a movie where cops go rogue ๐Ÿคฏ! Can't believe they deployed chemical irritants and projectiles on innocent people... what's next? The city council needs to get it together ASAP and make sure there's some real consequences for those officers. I mean, 7 council members, the mayor, and the new mayor-elect all agree something was off... how can you ignore that many people?! ๐Ÿค” And now they're saying they need more time to review the resolution? Give me a break! The Police Civilian Internal Affairs Review Commission is already on it, so let's see some real change happen soon ๐Ÿ’ช. I'm definitely keeping an eye on this one...
 
OMG, I'm so relieved that the St Paul City Council is taking their time to get this right! ๐Ÿ˜Š They can't afford to rush into a decision when there are so many questions about what really went down at that immigration op ๐Ÿค”. Community members are totally justified in demanding answers and transparency from our police department ๐Ÿ’ฌ, especially when it comes to using chemical irritants and projectiles on people who weren't even suspects yet! ๐Ÿ˜ฑ It's all about accountability and making sure we're protecting the rights of everyone in our community โค๏ธ. I'm also loving that the Police Civilian Internal Affairs Review Commission is pushing for an independent investigation - now that's some real progress ๐ŸŽ‰! Let's keep the pressure on, St Paul City Council, and make sure justice is served ๐Ÿ’ช!
 
[Image of a confused cop with a " Wait, what?" expression ๐Ÿ˜‚]

[ GIF: A person trying to take a selfie while being sprayed by pepper spray ๐Ÿคฃ]

[Image of a community member holding a sign that says "Transparency now!"]
 
๐Ÿค” This whole thing is just too suspicious... I mean, what's really going on here? They're delaying the vote to "get it right"? Yeah, right! That's just a fancy way of saying they don't want to take responsibility for their cops' actions. And now the Police Civilian Internal Affairs Review Commission is already voting for an independent investigation? That's not exactly surprising... I mean, have you seen the way that commission operates? It's like they're hiding something from us! ๐Ÿ˜

And what about all those arrests in the Payne-Phalen neighborhood? Did you see the vids of those cops deploying chemical irritants and projectiles? That's some serious police brutality right there! They need to be held accountable, but I'm not sure if that'll happen. The mayor and council members are just going through the motions, trying to cover their own behinds. It's all about politics and power struggles... don't you think? ๐Ÿ’”
 
๐Ÿค” I'm still tryin' to wrap my head around this whole thing... I mean, two arrests and all these questions about police conduct? It seems like a whole lotta fuss 'bout not enough info, ya know? Like, what's the harm in just investigatin' how things went down instead of jumpin' straight to conclusions? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ The city council should just get on with it and vote already! โฐ But at the same time, I get why the community's all upset - they're still hurtin' from that whole ICE operation fiasco. ๐Ÿšซ Maybe we can get some answers if everyone just stays chill and keeps talkin'. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
 
It's disheartening to see that the St. Paul City Council is taking a cautious approach to address the concerns surrounding the recent ICE operation. The delay in voting on the resolution may be seen as a prudent measure, but it also underscores the need for a more nuanced understanding of the complexities involved.

The fact that the Police Civilian Internal Affairs Review Commission has already voted in favor of an independent investigation highlights the importance of transparency and accountability in policing practices. It's essential to acknowledge that the use of force by law enforcement can have severe consequences, particularly when it involves federal immigration operations.

By taking a measured approach, the city council can ensure that any actions taken are informed by a thorough understanding of the situation. This might involve engaging with community leaders and experts to provide a more comprehensive context for the investigation. Ultimately, the goal should be to ensure that the voices of those affected are heard and that accountability is served. ๐Ÿค”
 
This is so sus ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ’ฅ. Like, how can they delay the vote when the community is already super stressed about what went down? The officers' actions were def excessive ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿšซ and we need answers NOW! ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘€ I'm not buying that they're just trying to get it "right" ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ... like, how can you get something right when there's so much at stake? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿ’” The community deserves transparency and accountability, like, ASAP! โฑ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
omg, this is getting messy ๐Ÿคฏ! I'm all about that transparency life, you know? ๐Ÿ’ก The fact that city officials are taking extra time to get it right is a good thing ๐Ÿ™, but I'm still hella skeptical about the police department's actions during that ICE op ๐Ÿš”๐Ÿ’ฅ. We need some answers, ASAP! ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ Can we please have an independent investigation and see what all the fuss is about? ๐Ÿค The community needs to know what really went down in that Payne-Phalen neighborhood ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. Let's keep pushing for accountability and justice for everyone involved ๐Ÿ’ฏ #JusticeForTheCommunity #TransparencyMatters #AccountabilityIsKey
 
omg what is going on in st paul ?? i mean i get that they want to do their job but using chemical irritants and projectiles?? no thanks! cant we just talk about this like civilized ppl? delaying the vote just gonna prolong the drama ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ‘€ this is getting out of hand
 
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