Detroit council member proposes ban on masked law enforcement officers - Detroit Metro Times

Detroit City Councilwoman Mary Waters has proposed an ordinance that would ban local, state, and federal law enforcement officers from wearing masks or other facial coverings while performing their duties in Detroit. The proposal is aimed at preventing officers from enforcing the law "with impunity" when their identities are concealed.

The move comes after the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti, a 24-year-old man who was killed by two federal agents in Minneapolis for video-recording immigration enforcement on January 24th. Waters has stated that her ordinance aims to honor Pretti's memory and ensure that law enforcement officers can be identified while performing their duties.

Under the proposed ordinance, any local, state, or federal law enforcement personnel would be prohibited from wearing masks or other facial coverings while in Detroit. Penalties for non-compliance would be determined by the city law department.

This proposal is not the first of its kind; several cities, including Los Angeles County and Philadelphia, have recently introduced similar ordinances to regulate the use of masks by federal immigration agents. In Denver, city council members have proposed an ordinance that would prohibit officers from concealing their identities during interrogations, detentions, or arrests.

However, experts warn that local efforts to regulate federal officers may face constitutional challenges under the Supremacy Clause. As a result, it remains unclear whether these bans can effectively prevent federal immigration agents from acting with impunity and wearing masks in various jurisdictions.

The ordinance must be approved by the Detroit City Council before it can take effect, and if adopted, the city law department would determine how violations are enforced.
 
I gotta say, this whole mask-wearing thing is a slippery slope, right? ๐Ÿค” I mean, one day you got people protesting for freedom of speech, next day you're trying to regulate what cops wear on their faces. It's like, come on, Detroit City Councilwoman Mary Waters wants to honor Alex Pretti's memory, but isn't she just creating a whole new set of problems? I'm all about transparency and accountability in law enforcement, but this feels like overreach.

And let's not forget the feds are gonna be all over this. They're like, "Hey, we can do our job however we want, even if it means challenging some local ordinances." Meanwhile, people on both sides of the aisle are gonna be like, "This is too much!" I just don't think we should be trying to dictate what federal agents wear on their faces. It's a bit too authoritarian for my taste.

I guess what I'm saying is, we need to have a national conversation about this, not just local solutions. We gotta figure out how to balance our desire for transparency with the need for law enforcement to stay safe and effective. Can't we just find some common ground on this one? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
I'm still thinking about that Alex Pretti case ๐Ÿค•... what's the point of making a rule to ban masks on cops if they're gonna just find other ways to hide their faces? Like, what's stopping them from just using their cars with tinted windows or something? ๐Ÿšจ And isn't this just another way for politicians to try to control things that don't really need to be controlled? Like, I get it, we want to make sure cops are identifiable, but do we really have to take away their right to wear a mask if they're doing their job? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿค” I'm all about freedom of expression and safety for everyone, but this one's got me thinking... ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™€๏ธ If officers gotta be identified while doing their job, maybe they're hiding something? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ On the other hand, if people can record them on camera and it's a matter of public interest, shouldn't there be some transparency? ๐Ÿ“น I'm not sure about this ordinance, but it's clear that Detroit City Councilwoman Mary Waters wants to honor Alex Pretti's memory... ๐Ÿ’” That's really sad. What do you guys think? Should we just let law enforcement officers wear masks while they're working or should there be some limits? ๐Ÿ˜Š
 
omg you guys I just saw this news and I'm literally shaken ๐Ÿคฏ my cousin's friend was a cop and he always wore a mask on duty his brother-in-law was killed by an ICE agent in 2018 and it's still so fresh in their minds they're super against cops who hide behind masks anyway I think it's kinda reasonable to want transparency but at the same time, what if these agents are literally threatened for their lives because of their job? my friend works in the social media marketing world and she just lost her job to a guy with a "fake" online presence idk about the law but I do know that this is super relevant to the current events we need more awareness about police brutality ๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ’”
 
man this is a whole other can of worms ๐Ÿคฏ... i mean i get where councilwoman waters is coming from - the alex pretti thing was super messed up and we need to make sure that kind of thing never happens again ๐Ÿ’”. but at the same time, i'm all about protecting our rights as citizens, and if federal agents are gonna wear masks all the time it's like they're above the law, you know? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

i think what we really need is more transparency and accountability from law enforcement agencies, not just a ban on facial coverings. maybe we can work on some legislation that requires officers to identify themselves in certain situations, or make sure that surveillance footage is preserved and released to the public... that way we can all feel safer and trust the system more ๐Ÿ’ช.

it's also worth noting that this could be a slippery slope - what if other types of masks start being banned too? like medical masks for example? ๐Ÿค”. it's just something to think about, you know?
 
I don't think this is a good idea ๐Ÿค”... I mean, what's next? Banning officers from wearing bulletproof vests or carrying guns while on duty? It just doesn't make sense to me. We need more transparency and accountability in law enforcement, not less. What if the person being recorded is in fear for their life and needs to protect themselves by covering their face? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's all about finding that balance between keeping people safe and respecting individual rights.
 
can u believe this? another way for cops to get away w/ what they do is to just hide their faces ๐Ÿคฅ... i mean, come on, if u dont wanna be held accountable 4 ur actions, just wear a mask! problem solved ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ... but seriously, how r we supposed 2 know w/ certainty that these ordinances will actually make a difference? and what about when they just switch to a different kind of face covering ๐Ÿค”... it's like trying 2 solve a puzzle w/ missing pieces...
 
Masks on cops? I don't get it... ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿค” If they need to wear masks for health reasons or whatever, shouldn't that be their choice? It's not like they're forcing everyone else to wear a mask. And what about all the times when you see a cop in a riot situation and they're wearing a mask? They're there to protect themselves from harm, right? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

I'm not saying I condone people hiding their faces while committing crimes, but can't we just have a more nuanced conversation about this? Are masks really the answer? ๐Ÿ’ก It feels like another way for us to police each other instead of actually addressing the issues that lead to these kinds of situations in the first place. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
I'm so done with all this #MasksMatter business! ๐Ÿ™„ Like, what's next? Banning police from wearing sunglasses while patrolling? ๐Ÿ•ถ๏ธ It's time to focus on real issues instead of playing politics with facial coverings. I get it, the Alex Pretti case was tragic, but shouldn't we be focusing on preventing unnecessary violence and promoting community trust? ๐Ÿ’”

Let's not forget that these ordinances are just a Band-Aid solution for a much bigger problem - systemic corruption and lack of accountability within law enforcement agencies. We need real reform, not just temporary fixes like this mask ban #JusticeForAll
 
idk why ppl gotta go thru this ๐Ÿค” ... just because some agents got away w/ some stuff dont mean every1 else gets to hide behind a mask too ๐Ÿšซ it's like they think we can't trust 'em anymore ๐Ÿ’” but what about the good cops out there who actually care? shouldn't we be able 2 have faith in the ones w/ the badges & guns as well? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ this ordinance just seems like another way 4 ppl w/ power 2 exert control over others... ๐Ÿ‘Ž
 
I cant believe whats going on in this world ๐Ÿคฏ... I mean, I'm all for keeping our police officers safe, but this is taking it to a whole new level ๐Ÿš”๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ. What's next? Are we gonna start making them wear bright colors with their uniforms so we can spot 'em from a mile away? ๐Ÿ˜‚ I know the intent behind Mary Waters' proposal is good, but these laws are just gonna get shot down in court, mark my words โš–๏ธ.

And don't even get me started on the precedent it sets ๐Ÿค”. If cities start passing laws regulating federal agents, what's to stop other states from doing the same? It's like a game of whack-a-mole ๐Ÿ˜‚. We need to focus on getting our police departments more transparent and community-driven, not trying to regulate everyone else ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

I'm all for accountability, but this feels like we're creating more problems than we're solving ๐Ÿ’”. Maybe instead of passing laws, we should be working on building trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve ๐Ÿค. That's where the real change starts ๐ŸŒˆ...
 
I'm telling you, this whole thing is fishy ๐ŸŸ! It's like they're trying to control what we know about our law enforcement officers ๐Ÿคซ. I mean, think about it - if they can't wear masks, that means they can still hide their identities and do whatever they want without being held accountable ๐Ÿ’”. And now, Mary Waters is trying to spin this as a way to honor Alex Pretti's memory? Come on, she's just playing the victim here ๐Ÿ™„.

I've been following this story, and it seems like all these cities are doing this around the same time - Los Angeles County, Philadelphia, Denver... what do you think they're really after? Is it just about transparency, or is there something more sinister going on? ๐Ÿ˜ I'm not buying it. This is some kind of cover-up ๐Ÿคฅ. Mark my words, we'll see where this ordinance takes us ๐Ÿ‘€.
 
I gotta disagree with this proposal ๐Ÿค”. Like, I get where Mary Waters is coming from, but do we really need a bunch of laws telling cops what to wear? It's not like they're hiding their identity just for kicks โ€“ usually it's because they wanna avoid a confrontation or some other reason that's got nothing to do with being bad guys.

And let's be real, this ordinance is just gonna lead to more problems than it solves. Like, how are we gonna enforce it? Are we gonna have a whole new police force just for monitoring the old one? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's just not practical or necessary. And what about all the other agencies that might wanna do the same thing? Do we need another layer of bureaucracy to deal with? No thanks, I think we should just focus on making sure our cops are actually doing their jobs right, not what they're wearing.

Plus, it's a slippery slope โ€“ next thing you know, they'll be telling us what color socks to wear too ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Just let the police do their job and worry about who's being bad guys, not what they're wearing on their face.
 
idk why they need to make a big deal about this... officers wearin masks all the time already... but i guess its about keepin them accountable and all that jazz... like if some cop was doin some shady stuff and hid his face, ppl should be able to know who he is... it's not rocket science ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
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