Hochul punts on reform of youth criminal justice law, dodging fight with fellow Democrats

New York Governor Kathy Hochul has sidestepped a potential fight with fellow Democrats over reform of the state's youth criminal justice law in her latest budget proposal. The move, which maintains key elements of the landmark "Raise the Age" law that increased the age of criminal responsibility from 16 to 18, comes after sustained lobbying from prosecutors, police, and law enforcement groups who had hinted at revising the law.

Critics argue that the law's provisions have been largely ineffective in addressing rising youth crime rates, with advocates pointing to data showing a decline in overall youth crime since its passage. The issue also remains a contentious one within the state Democratic Party, with some lawmakers having signaled their support for maintaining the law as it stands.

Hochul's decision not to pursue changes to Raise the Age appears to have been driven by concerns about the potential backlash from progressives and the need to avoid reopening old wounds ahead of this year's re-election race. However, some critics, including Rensselaer County District Attorney Mary Pat Donnelly, who is also president of the New York District Attorneys Association, argue that necessary reform efforts have been sidestepped.

The group says it will continue to push for targeted revisions to the law, including moving more juvenile gun possession cases back into criminal court and giving prosecutors greater access to sealed family court case records. Advocates emphasize that community-based programs, counseling, and wraparound services are essential in addressing underlying issues driving youth crime, with funding for these initiatives remaining woefully inadequate.

The controversy surrounding Raise the Age has been ongoing since 2017, when New York was one of only two states automatically charging 16- and 17-year-olds as adults. The law passed following the high-profile case of Kalief Browder, who spent three years at Rikers Island awaiting trial for a minor charge before taking his own life.

As the state's Democratic majorities prepare to face another re-election test, advocates are warning that without sustained efforts to address underlying issues driving youth crime and implement evidence-based reforms, they may be forced to revisit these contentious issues in the future.
 
omg u no how frustrating it is wen ur sthey sayin we can jst keep doin ths same thing 4ever lol like wut about all dese youth whos in trouble? dont thay lawz work @all? i mean, i get it nyc's tryna avoid a fight but come on, gotta think abt da ppl who matter here ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. Hochul's decision is super sus tho idk if she's really thinkin bout wht's best 4 da kids or just playin it safe 2 b elected ๐Ÿค‘. need 2 get back 2 ths & figure out wht's goin on w/ dis youth crime crisis ๐Ÿ˜•
 
๐Ÿค” imo, Hochul's move might seem like a win for Dems but its actually a sign of bigger issue - we're still stuck in reactive mode instead of proactively addressing the root causes of youth crime ๐ŸŒŽ. Those community programs & counseling services arent just nice to have, they're lifesavers! But funding remains a joke ๐Ÿค‘. Its time for us to put our money where our mouth is & invest in what really works ๐Ÿ’ธ. And yeah, Hochul's probably not wanna deal with the backlash from her own party members ๐Ÿ˜ฌ, but thats no excuse to sweep this under the rug ๐Ÿšฎ. The real question is, when are we gonna learn that true progress comes from working together towards a common goal? ๐Ÿค
 
๐Ÿค” think this is a big deal cuz Hochul basically sidestepped it... i get why she did tho, dont wanna rock the boat before re-election ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ but at the same time i feel like thats not really solving the problem either... all these critics sayin that community programs and counseling are key but hes not makin moves on that front... it feels like hes just kickin the can down the road instead of takin real action...
 
I'm thinkin' this is actually a pretty good move by Hochul, you know? She's defused a potential powder keg situation and avoided any major drama ahead of her re-election. I mean, let's be real, Raise the Age has been around for ages now, and it's not like it's been perfect from the start ๐Ÿค”. The data on youth crime rates does show some decline, so maybe she's onto something? But at the same time, I get why the advocates are still pushing for reforms โ€“ community-based programs really do need more funding ๐Ÿ’ธ. Maybe this is just a temporary reprieve until the next big push comes along ๐Ÿ”„. One thing's for sure, though: it's gonna be a long and tough road to address these underlying issues, but I'm actually kinda optimistic about the progress that can be made ๐Ÿ”“.
 
I'm not sure why everyone's making a big deal about this ๐Ÿค”. Kathy Hochul's budget proposal is just trying to find a middle ground, ya know? I mean, some people love the "Raise the Age" law and others hate it, so she's just trying not to rock the boat โš–๏ธ. But honestly, can't we all just get along? ๐Ÿค— It's not like she's getting rid of the law altogether โ€“ she's just tweaking it a bit to make it more palatable for everyone. And let's be real, some of these critics are just trying to stir up drama ahead of the election ๐Ÿ“ฆ. I think Hochul made the right call here, and we should support her efforts to find common ground โš–๏ธ. Maybe instead of fighting over this, we can focus on actual solutions โ€“ like more funding for community programs that actually help young people ๐Ÿ˜Š.
 
๐Ÿšจ I think Hochul's move is a total cop-out! You've got one of the youngest people in the country being treated like an adult when it comes to crime, but instead of making real changes, she's just throwing everyone under the bus and hoping no one calls her out on it ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, those data points showing a decline in youth crime are basically irrelevant if we're not addressing the underlying issues, right? We need more than just community-based programs, counseling, etc. We need to be willing to take some real risks and make some tough decisions. Otherwise, we're just kicking the can down the road and letting these kids continue to get screwed over ๐Ÿคฏ.
 
I think its a bit weird that Hochul is choosing not to rock the boat on Raise the Age - I mean, sure, it's her re-election year and all that... ๐Ÿค” But at the same time, I can kinda see where she's coming from. The law has been in place for years now, and while its supporters are saying some pretty optimistic things about how well its working (like overall youth crime rates have gone down), others are pointing out some major flaws - like, for example, that community programs and counseling services are still being woefully underfunded.

Idk if I'd say Hochul dodged a bullet or anything, but at the same time, I don't think she's just gonna be able to avoid revisiting this issue forever. There are just too many people on both sides of the aisle who want some kind of change - and with good reason, too... The real question is, what does that mean for young people like Kalief Browder in the long run? ๐Ÿค•
 
๐Ÿค” I'm low-key disappointed that Hochul skipped over reforming Raise the Age. ๐Ÿšซ The data's there, it shows a decline in youth crime since its passage, but we need to tackle the underlying issues driving this trend. ๐Ÿ“Š Community programs & counseling are key, but funding remains woefully inadequate ๐Ÿค‘

Here's some stats:

- In 2020, NY's juvenile recidivism rate was 33.6%, compared to 41.1% in 2018 (Source: NY State Division of Criminal Justice Services)
- Between 2017 and 2020, the number of NYC youth arrested for gun possession decreased by 34% (Source: NYPD data)
- In 2022, NY spent $143M on community programs & services aimed at reducing juvenile recidivism (Source: NY State Budget)

Let's not get caught up in politics & partisan debates; we need to focus on implementing evidence-based reforms that address the root causes of youth crime. ๐Ÿ’ก
 
๐Ÿค” I'm kinda surprised Kathy Hochul dodged that bullet. The data on declining youth crime rates is pretty clear - it's not like Raise the Age has been a total fail ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, some folks are gonna keep pushing for changes, and I get it, but can't we just try to find common ground? It feels like we're stuck in this cycle of 'let's tweak the law' instead of really addressing what's causing all these problems in the first place ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. And yeah, community programs and wraparound services are key... it's just frustrating that funding isn't there to back it up ๐Ÿ’ธ.
 
I'm not surprised Hochul played it safe on this one ๐Ÿค”... I mean, who wants to rock the boat with their own party members? It's all about playing the politics game. Meanwhile, Rensselaer County District Attorney Mary Pat Donnelly is still pushing for changes - gotta love a good underdog story ๐Ÿ’ช. But let's be real, it's just another example of how 'reform' can mean different things to different people. The fact remains that the system isn't working and more needs to be done, not less ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ.
 
๐Ÿค” I think Hochul made a smart move by not messing with Raise the Age ๐Ÿ™. If she'd gone ahead and changed the law now, it would've sparked a huge fight within the party ๐Ÿ”ฅ. I mean, who wants to deal with that? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ But at the same time, I'm worried that this means we're just kicking the can down the road ๐Ÿ”ด. We need to be addressing these underlying issues driving youth crime and investing in community programs ๐ŸŒˆ. It's not going to solve anything if we just keep patching up the law without making real changes ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
๐Ÿค” I think Kathy Hochul dodged a bullet here. The Raise the Age law has been around for ages now, and while it's great that we've seen a decline in overall youth crime rates, it's clear that some of its provisions aren't working as well as hoped. By not revising the law, she avoids potential conflict with progressive Democrats who might have pushed for more changes. However, I also get why critics are concerned - they want to see real reforms that address the root causes of youth crime, like poverty and lack of access to counseling. We need to find a balance here, but I think it's safe to say that Hochul played it smart by not making this a contentious issue... for now ๐Ÿ˜Š
 
I'm still thinking about this Raise the Age law thing... ๐Ÿค” I get why Hochul didn't wanna mess with it, but isn't it kinda weird that we're still having this conversation 8 years after it was passed? ๐Ÿ™„ I mean, stats show youth crime rates have actually been going down since it went into effect. It's like, aren't we trying to help these kids or what? ๐Ÿ˜”

And don't even get me started on the funding for community programs and stuff... it's still super inadequate. Like, how can we expect these kids to change their ways if we're not giving 'em the resources they need? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I'm all for reform, but it needs to be done in a way that actually helps people, you know?

It's kinda like we're stuck in this limbo, just rehashing the same old issues instead of actually solving them. I guess it's just part of politics... ๐Ÿ˜ฉ
 
I'm really worried about this Raise the Age law, you know? ๐Ÿค” I mean, it's been out for years now and we're still seeing a lot of problems with youth crime not being addressed properly. It's all well and good to have community programs and counseling, but what's happening is that people are just getting more and more entrenched in the system. And it's not like the law hasn't tried to make some changes already, right? The prosecutors and cops are still pushing for more control, which just seems counterproductive to me.

I'm all for giving kids a second chance, but at what cost? We can't just keep throwing money at community programs without making sure they're actually working. And what's with the politics around this whole thing? It feels like everyone's too afraid to take a real stance on it because of the re-election cycle. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ I wish someone would just be honest about whether or not this law is really helping, instead of trying to sidestep the issue.
 
Ugh, can't believe Hochul just gave up on reforming Raise the Age ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ. It's like she thinks all these cops and prosecutors are gonna magically fix things on their own. Meanwhile, Rensselaer County DA Donnelly is still pushing for real changes to address youth crime. Those juvenile gun possession cases need to be handled differently, but of course, it'll never get done with Hochul playing it safe ๐Ÿค”. And don't even get me started on the funding for community programs... like everyone forgot that's where all the progress goes ๐Ÿ’ธ. This is just gonna come back to haunt her in 2026 when she's re-election campaigning ๐Ÿšซ.
 
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