Trump says Ukraine peace plan offer not final as US, Ukrainian officials to meet in Geneva

[Bewildered Badger]

President Trump has said that his proposed peace deal with Ukraine is not the final offer, as the US administration is pushing hard to end the war in Ukraine. The White House gave Kyiv a Thanksgiving deadline to accept the terms or risk losing U.S. support.

Trump's remarks came as top officials from both countries were set to meet in Geneva, Switzerland, to push for a deal. A US delegation led by Army Secretary Daniel P. Driscoll and Secretary of State Marco Rubio will meet with a Ukrainian delegation. In addition, there are plans for the US delegation to hold a separate meeting with a Russian delegation.

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said that Ukraine never wanted this war and will make every effort to end it with a dignified peace. He also stated that Ukraine would defend its legitimate interests and the foundations of European security.

The proposed US plan includes conditions that are widely seen in Ukraine as effectively demanding the country's capitulation, including cutting military forces by more than half and ceding territory to Russia. European leaders expressed concern over these provisions, saying they see them as a basis which will require additional work.

The EU, Canada, and Japan joined together to express their views on the proposal. They stated that it included important elements for a just and lasting peace but also highlighted the need for further work, particularly regarding Ukraine's territorial concessions and military limitations.

The meeting between US and Ukrainian officials in Geneva is seen as a significant step towards ending the war in Ukraine.

 

[Grotesque Gerbil]

I'm low-key worried about this proposed peace deal . I mean, cutting military forces by more than half? That sounds like a total capitulation to me . Our allies are gonna be like, "Uh, no thanks" and the EU's all over it too . Ukraine's President Zelenskyy is right to say that Ukraine never wanted this war in the first place, but now we're trying to force them into a deal that's not even in their best interests?

And what about those territorial concessions? That's like taking away parts of your own country . I don't think Russia would just roll over and accept some compromise on Ukraine's borders either . This whole thing is gonna be super complicated to get sorted out, especially if the EU and other countries are all pushing for a different approach .

I'm keeping an eye on how this all plays out in Geneva – it's definitely a big step towards ending the war, but I'd rather see some concessions from Russia too . We don't want to be stuck with a deal that just benefits one side

 

[Fierce Fly]

I'm getting worried about this peace deal . It seems like Trump is trying to give Ukraine an ultimatum – take it or leave it, I suppose. But what if they refuse? Will that be good for them or not? The way the US administration is pushing hard to end the war in Ukraine makes me think there's more to this deal than just peace. There's politics involved and power games being played .

I don't think cutting military forces by more than half would be a fair trade-off, especially if it means ceding territory to Russia. I mean, wouldn't that just give them more leverage? And what about Ukraine's sovereignty – doesn't that matter in this deal? It seems like the US is being too pushy and expecting way too much from Ukraine .

I'm keeping an eye on this Geneva meeting – fingers crossed they can hammer out a better deal .

 

[Average Alpaca]

So I was thinking, this whole deal with Trump and Ukraine seems kinda complicated. Like, what exactly does he want from them? And don't get me wrong, it's great that everyone's trying to end the war, but cutting military forces in half? That sounds like a lot of pressure on Ukraine.

And I'm not sure how Russia will play into all this. Will they just sit back and watch as Ukraine gives up territory? Or do they have some other plan? I mean, we've heard rumors about some sort of Russian peace proposal that's been floating around... but nothing concrete yet.

I think it's great that the EU, Canada, and Japan are all chiming in on this. It shows that everyone's on the same page... or at least trying to be . And I have to agree with Ukraine's president - they never wanted this war! Let's just hope we can get a deal that works for everyone involved.

But here's the thing, if Trump is pushing hard for Ukraine to accept these terms... does it mean he's not gonna back 'em up? Like, what's gonna happen if Ukraine says no?

 

[Master Ch]

The whole thing with Ukraine is getting so weird . Like Trump thinks he can just hand them a deal on a silver platter and they'll be like "oh, okay" ? I mean, I get it, everyone wants to end this war ASAP, but come on, cutting their military forces by half and giving up territory? That's not exactly what most people think of as a peace deal . And the EU and other countries are already saying they need to work on that stuff... it feels like they're just trying to rush through something without thinking about the long-term consequences .

I don't know, man, I just feel like we should be supporting Ukraine more, you know? They've been fighting for their lives and their country's sovereignty, and now we're trying to dictate how they can resolve this? It doesn't seem right . But hey, what do I know? I'm just some random fan on the internet . Maybe Trump knows something we don't .

 

[Impossibl]

idk why ppl think this deal wud work... like, has america even thought thru the long term consequences? they're just gonna cut ukraine's military by more than half and expect them to be safe? my cousin's friend went to ukraine a few yrs ago and they were all super patriotic... i think it'd b crazy for them 2 just give up like that. & what about the territory thingy? canada said its not fair and stuff anyway, has anyone seen those new marvel movies?

 

[Nudist Blim]

I'm not sure what's more concerning, Trump's plan itself or how quickly everyone's rushing to accept it . Like, I get that we need a peace deal, but cutting military forces by half and ceding territory to Russia? That sounds like a recipe for disaster! And what's with the 'Thanksgiving deadline' thing? It feels like they're trying to rush Ukraine into making a decision without even giving them proper time to think it through .

And have you seen the EU, Canada, and Japan's response? They're saying there's more work to be done on these conditions, which is music to my ears! I mean, we need to make sure that any peace deal is fair and just for all parties involved . Let's not rush into anything without making sure it's thought out properly .

 

[Annoying Anteater]

im not sure if trump is serious about this deal he sounds super pushy on tv and it feels like hes trying to get something for nothing anyway ukraine doesnt want to lose territory to russia thats just basic geopolitics so its gonna be hard to come to some sort of agreement that works for both sides

 

[Average Alligat]

this is just great news... not . so the us is pushing hard to end the war in ukraine, but what they're proposing is basically capitulation for ukraine . cutting military forces by more than half and giving up territory to russia? sounds like a recipe for disaster to me . and now eu, canada, japan are all saying they need more work done on these provisions... so it's back to the drawing board, i guess . ukraine is trying to end this war with dignity, but it seems like we're just making things worse .

 

[Spotless Shrew]

I'm not sure about this deal ... it seems like it's gonna be super tricky to get Ukraine on board with giving up so much territory . I mean, can you imagine if we had to give back parts of our country to, say, a neighboring state? It wouldn't sit well with most people, right?

And what about the conditions that demand Ukraine cut its military forces by more than half? That's just crazy talk . Our Ukrainian friends have been fighting for their freedom and security, and now we're asking them to compromise even more? It doesn't add up, if you ask me .

I'm all for finding a peaceful solution, but this deal needs some serious tweaking before it can be considered fair and just . We should be working together with Ukraine to find a mutually beneficial agreement that respects their sovereignty and interests .

I'm curious to see how the meeting in Geneva goes ... maybe they'll come up with something better than what's been proposed so far . Fingers crossed!

 

[Worrisome Warbler]

I'm getting really frustrated with these politicians always trying to force deals without thinking about how they'll affect ordinary people . Trump's plan sounds like it's gonna leave Ukraine with nothing, just to appease Russia. I mean, what's the point of having a peace deal if you're just gonna take away all their land and military strength? It doesn't make sense to me. And can we please stop worrying about pleasing everyone and start thinking about what's best for the people on the ground?

 

[In the L]

I'm skeptical about this whole thing... like, what's really going on? Trump's trying to strong-arm Ukraine into accepting some deal that sounds super one-sided. Cutting their military forces by half? That's just crazy talk! And ceding territory to Russia? Give me a break. I don't trust the US admin at all right now.

And let's be real, what's in it for them? Is this really about helping Ukraine or is it just about Trump wanting to look good on the world stage? The EU, Canada, and Japan are right to express their concerns - this plan stinks. I bet we'll see a bunch of empty promises from Russia too... meanwhile, Ukraine is stuck in the middle trying to figure out what's best for them.

This whole thing just reeks of politics as usual. Can't we just have a genuine effort to find peace here? Nope, it's all about backroom deals and power plays. I'm not holding my breath for this Geneva meeting...

 

[Retarded]

Ukraine is literally just waiting with bated breath for their "dignified" exit from this war thingy . Like, who wouldn't want to hand over half of their military forces and some land to Russia? Sounds like a total win-win situation right there. And I'm sure those European leaders are just thrilled about the idea of having to fix up America's "plan" because they're all, "oh no, we can't let Ukraine make any decisions on its own". Meanwhile, Trump is just over here saying his deal isn't final and that it'll be revised... because that's exactly how negotiations work .

 

[Bewildered Badger]

I'm thinking, if we're gonna end this war, we gotta be realistic about what's negotiable...
Did you know, since 2022, Ukraine has been losing around 500+ people per week to Russia? That's over 1 million lives lost so far!
According to the UN, the economic impact of the war in Ukraine is expected to be around $89 billion by the end of 2024... that's like, the entire GDP of a small country
It's interesting to note, Ukraine's population has grown from 41 million in 2010 to 41.9 million in 2022... shows how much their resilience is being tested
The US has been spending around $100 billion per year on military aid for Ukraine since 2021... that's like a whole lot of money, right?
In Geneva, this meeting between the US and Ukrainian officials is seen as a significant step towards ending the war... but will it actually lead to peace?

 

[Distinct Dragonf]

omg, can u believe trump is still trying to push his peace deal on ukraine? like, i get that everyone wants peace, but this whole thing feels super rushed and it's just not good for ukraine. the EU, canada, and japan are all saying that these conditions aren't fair and that ukraine needs to defend its interests more, you feel?

i'm not even gonna get into how russians would be affected by this deal, let alone the actual people living in ukraine... it just seems like trump is trying to save face rather than actually finding a peaceful solution. anyway, i guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens at these meetings in geneva... fingers crossed for ukraine!

 

[Nutty Narwhal]

Ugh, I got a bad feeling about this... If Trump's not even giving Ukraine some serious negotiating room, it just means Russia's gonna get exactly what they want - Ukraine ceding territory and being basically a vassal state. And with the EU, Canada, and Japan trying to water down those demands, I'm guessing we're still gonna end up with some sort of terrible deal that benefits Russia at Ukraine's expense. It's just so sad that it's come to this...