ICE’s “less lethal” crowd-control weapons can still be deadly

US Law Enforcement's "Less Lethal" Crowd Control Measures Spark Controversy Over Deadly Consequences

A recent wave of violence by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has brought the use of force by law enforcement under renewed scrutiny. While the focus has been on lethal force, a lesser-known aspect of law enforcement tactics - crowd control measures labeled as "less lethal" - are also drawing criticism for their potential to cause serious injury or death.

These less-lethal munitions include stun guns, pepper spray, concussion projectiles, and other devices designed to be used instead of live ammunition. Proponents claim they provide an option that stops short of lethal force, but critics argue that even these measures can still be deadly if misused by law enforcement.

The case of Kaden Rummler, a 21-year-old protester shot in the face with a less-lethal round while demonstrating against the killing of Renee Good, highlights the risks associated with these devices. In the video footage of the incident, an officer points his weapon directly at Rummler's face, fracturing his skull and leaving shrapnel in his face, ultimately rendering him blind for life in one eye.

Other incidents have also surfaced, such as a woman who fell to the ground writhing in pain after being shot with another less-lethal round. These examples demonstrate that even when used according to guidelines, these devices can still result in serious injury or death.

Experts point out that law enforcement often fails to follow best practices when using these weapons, leading to unnecessary harm. In some instances, officers are seen aiming directly at the head or other sensitive areas of the body, which increases the risk of severe injury.

The medical director at Physicians for Human Rights, Dr. Michele Heisler, warns that even when used correctly, less-lethal weapons will still result in injury. "Increasingly, there's a consensus that kinetic impact projectiles can never really be used safely to disperse crowds," she says.

In response to growing concerns, some states have proposed regulations to restrict the use of certain less-lethal devices or ban problematic models altogether. California, for example, has passed laws requiring police to attempt de-escalation before resorting to these measures and banning indiscriminate firing into crowds.

However, advocates note that for these regulations to be effective, they need buy-in from members of law enforcement. The use of less-lethal munitions by ICE agents, in particular, remains unaddressed, with the agency declining to comment on the matter.
 
Wow 😱 - it's crazy how some "less lethal" crowd control measures can actually lead to serious injuries and even death... like that Kaden Rummler guy who got shot right in the face 🤯! Can't believe they point that gun directly at someone's face and expect everything to be okay. Even when used according to guidelines, it's still super sketchy. And what about those cases where officers aim for sensitive areas? 💔 The medical director is right, even when used correctly, these devices can still cause harm. California's trying to do something good by banning some problematic models, but it's not gonna work if law enforcement doesn't get on board 🚫
 
I'm all about questioning how these "less lethal" crowd control measures are really working out 🤔. I mean, we've got videos like Kaden Rummler's incident where it's clear that officers were NOT following best practices - aiming directly at people's faces and heads? That's just crazy talk! 😱 And now you're telling me there's a "consensus" among experts that these devices can never be used safely to disperse crowds? Come on, what's the source on that? 🤷‍♀️ I need some concrete info before I start buying into all this. This whole thing just feels like it's being swept under the rug...
 
Ugh, can't believe this 🤦‍♂️ stuff is still going on! So, like, these "less lethal" crowd control measures are just a fancy way of saying they're still gonna hurt people if used wrongfully 🚫. I mean, come on, law enforcement needs to follow the guidelines and use common sense, not aim directly at someone's face like that officer did in the Kaden Rummler case 😱. And don't even get me started on how these devices can be deadly if misused. It's just common sense to use them with caution. California getting some regulations going is a good start, but we need to see more, like, actual changes 🔄. I mean, who wants to have to live with the consequences of being shot with one of these things? Not me, that's for sure 😳
 
I'm low-key worried about how some law enforcement agencies are handling crowd control measures 🤕. Like, yeah I get that they wanna keep everyone safe, but these "less lethal" guns and stuff can be super deadly if not used right 🚨. Kaden Rummler's case is a real eye-opener - fracturing someone's skull like that? Unacceptable 💔. And it's not just the officers who are the problem, it's also the agencies that don't follow best practices when using these devices 🤦‍♂️. I'm all for trying to de-escalate situations, but sometimes you gotta know when to use force and when to try something else 💡. And what's up with ICE not commenting on this whole thing? 🤔 It's like they're trying to sweep it under the rug...
 
The whole system is just so messed up 🤯. These "less lethal" crowd control measures are just a fancy way of saying "we're not going to do anything about you". And now we've got people getting hurt or worse because of it 😩. I mean, come on! If they can't even be bothered to follow best practices when using these devices, then maybe they shouldn't be allowed to use them in the first place? It's just common sense... well, maybe not to them 🤷‍♂️.

And don't even get me started on the fact that some states are trying to regulate this stuff. Like, it's about time, right? But what's going to happen when these regulations actually do come into effect? Are people really going to start following the rules or will they just find ways to work around them? It's like we're stuck in this never-ending cycle of "try this" and "see how that works out". 🤦‍♂️
 
I'm not sure I fully agree with cracking down on these "less lethal" crowd control measures 🤔... I mean, I get why people are worried about the potential for serious injury or death, but at the same time, we need law enforcement to be able to respond effectively in high-pressure situations. That being said, I do think there needs to be more training and oversight when it comes to using these devices - like, have you seen those videos of officers aiming directly at people's heads? 😱 that's just not right. And yeah, maybe some states need to propose stricter regulations, but we also need to make sure that law enforcement is on board with this new approach. It's a tough balance to strike, but I think we can get there... eventually 💡
 
I'm really concerned about this whole thing... I mean, what's up with these "less lethal" crowd control measures? 🤔 They're just not working out like everyone thought they would. I've seen those videos of people getting shot with these less-lethal rounds and it's crazy how serious the injuries can be. Like, fractured skulls and blindness in one eye? That's just devastating.

And you know what really gets me? It's not even just about the devices themselves, it's about the training and procedures that come with using them. I've heard stories of officers aiming directly at people's heads or other sensitive areas, which is just ridiculous. Who trains them to do that? 🤷‍♂️

I think we need to rethink our approach to crowd control altogether. Maybe there are better ways to de-escalate situations without resorting to these devices. And what about accountability? If an officer uses one of these less-lethal rounds and it goes wrong, who's held responsible? 🤔
 
I get why people are upset about this stuff 🤔... I mean, these "less lethal" crowd control measures are designed to be safer than live ammo, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not deadly if used wrongfully 😬. It's like, I get where law enforcement is trying to minimize harm, but can't we find a better way to defuse situations without resorting to these potentially hazardous tools? 🤷‍♂️ And what really gets me is how some officers are aiming directly at people's faces or heads - that's just reckless, if you ask me 💥. I do think it's good that some states are proposing regulations to restrict the use of certain devices, but we need law enforcement and these agencies to be on board with that 📝. And yeah, the fact that ICE isn't commenting on this is not helping the situation...
 
Man 🙄 I'm telling ya, back in my day we didn't have all these fancy "less lethal" guns and stuff. We just used good old-fashioned common sense and de-escalation techniques 🤷‍♂️. These newfangled devices might seem like a better option, but honestly, I think they're just another way to ease law enforcement off the hook when things get out of hand 💪.

I mean, what's next? Are we gonna start using water balloons and silly string to disperse crowds? 🤣 It's just not that hard to figure out how to handle situations peacefully. These officers need to learn some basic tactics, like trying to stay calm under pressure and communicating with the people they're dealing with.

And don't even get me started on these "best practices" 📚. I'm sure it's all well and good, but at the end of the day, we want our cops to be able to do their jobs without having to worry about getting sued every time they use one of these gadgets 💸.

We need more accountability and transparency from law enforcement agencies, especially when it comes to using these less-lethal measures 🤝. Otherwise, it's just gonna keep happening, and we're all gonna end up paying the price 😕.
 
Dude, this is wild 🤯. I mean, we're supposed to feel safe when cops show up, right? But what if they're just gonna mow you down like a human piñata with these "less lethal" rounds 🎊? I get that they wanna keep people in line, but do they really need to use stuff that can totally freak someone out and leave 'em permanently blind, fam? 👀

I don't think we should be letting the cops just wing it when it comes to using all this tech. They gotta have some serious training on how to handle these less-lethal tools without causing more harm than good 💥. And what's up with ICE not even commenting on their own internal issues 🤔? That's some shady stuff, bro.

We need some real accountability here and some strict guidelines for when it's okay to bust out the big guns... or whatever these other "less lethal" options are 😒. Let's get this conversation started and make sure our law enforcement is actually looking out for us, not just themselves 💪
 
🚨 I'm gettin' so tired of these "less lethal" crowd control measures 🤬. Like, what's the point of havin' a device that's supposed to be non-lethal if it can still blind someone for life? 😱 Kaden Rummler's story is wild, fam... he was shot in the face with one of these "lesser evils" and now his life will never be the same. 🤕 The fact that law enforcement officers are still aimin' directly at people's faces and heads when deployin' these devices is just plain reckless. 😂 It's like they're playin' a game of Russian roulette with someone's life. 💀 And don't even get me started on the lack of regulation 🚫... it's all about findin' ways to "disarm" the situation instead of dealin' with the underlying issues that lead to violence in the first place. 🤔 We need to start havin' real conversations about police accountability and crowd control tactics, not just slap on some regulations and call it a day 📝.
 
🤔 I'm really worried about the safety implications of these "less lethal" crowd control measures. It's crazy how one wrong move can lead to devastating injuries like Kaden Rummler's 🤕. We need better training and protocols in place for officers to use these devices safely and responsibly. This isn't just about following guidelines, it's about considering the human impact of our actions 💡. California's new laws are a step in the right direction, but we need more states to follow suit 🙏. The fact that ICE won't comment on this issue is super concerning - we need transparency and accountability from law enforcement agencies 👮‍♂️.
 
I'm really worried about this stuff 🤕. These "less lethal" crowd control measures are basically just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna hurt you instead of killing you". I mean, if they can't be trusted to do their job without resorting to deadly force, then maybe we need to rethink our whole approach to policing. And what really gets me is that these devices are basically designed for situations where de-escalation would be the best option, but officers aren't even trying to use them that way. It's like they're just throwing caution to the wind and hoping for the best 🤦‍♀️. We need to make sure our law enforcement agencies are trained to use these tools safely and responsibly before we give 'em more power to carry around 🔒.
 
I'm really worried about this situation 🤕, it's crazy that these "less lethal" crowd control measures can be deadly if not used properly 💥. I mean, who wants to get shot in the face or blind for life? 😱 The officer in Kaden Rummler's case was aiming directly at his face, which is just insane 🤯. We need better training and accountability for law enforcement officers ⚠️. It's not just about following guidelines, it's about using common sense and respecting human life 🙏. We should be pushing for more de-escalation techniques and less reliance on these devices 💬. The fact that some states are proposing regulations is a good start, but we need to see real change from law enforcement agencies 👮‍♂️.
 
I'm super concerned about this situation 🤕. These "less lethal" crowd control measures can be really deadly if officers aren't careful. I mean, imagine being shot with a stun gun or pepper spray and ending up blind for life 😱. It's just not worth the risk, you know? Law enforcement should always prioritize de-escalation techniques over force.

I think it's awesome that some states are proposing regulations to restrict the use of these devices. But at the end of the day, we need to get buy-in from law enforcement agencies themselves. We can't just blame the agencies and expect everything to magically change 🙄. We need to have open conversations with officers and make sure they understand the risks involved.

It's also super important that we hold these agencies accountable for their actions. If an officer is using excessive force, they should face consequences 🤷‍♀️. We can't just sweep this under the rug and expect things to get better on their own. We need to keep pushing for change until it happens 💪.
 
I don’t usually comment but... it's wild how something that's supposed to be "less lethal" can still cause so much harm 💥. I'm watching these videos of protesters getting shot with "non-lethal" rounds and it's just crazy 🤯. Like, what even is the goal here? Are we trying to disable people or just kinda... hurt them a bit less? 😬

And don't even get me started on the training for officers 🤔. I mean, if they're not following guidelines, that's not the problem of the protesters, that's the issue with how law enforcement is trained and equipped 💡.

I think we need to have some serious conversations about this stuff and start prioritizing de-escalation techniques over just trying to control crowds 🤝. I mean, what's the point of having less-lethal munitions if you're not gonna use them responsibly? 🤷‍♂️
 
🤔 I think it's super concerning when law enforcement uses "less lethal" crowd control measures like pepper spray or stun guns and they still can be deadly if not used right 🚫 The thing is, these devices aren't foolproof and can cause some serious damage 💥 Like in the case of Kaden Rummler, who got shot in the face with a less-lethal round 😱 and now he's blind in one eye. It's just not worth the risk, you know? 🤦‍♂️ And what's even more concerning is when officers aim directly at people's heads or sensitive areas and still get away with it 🙄 We need better training for law enforcement on how to use these devices safely and responsibly 💪
 
🚨 just read about this crazy incident where some cop shoots a guy in the face with one of those "less lethal" rounds and he's now blind... like what is going on? these devices are literally just toys for people who don't know how to de-escalate situations 🤯 and we're still using them on protesters and activists, it's insane... California is trying to regulate this stuff but ICE is just ignoring it, which is super suspicious... these agencies need serious reform, like training and accountability, or else we're gonna keep seeing more victims like Kaden 😩
 
the whole thing is just wild 🔥😱 think about it, we've got these "less lethal" options that are basically just fancy ways of saying "we don't wanna shoot you dead"... but what's the real difference between a non-lethal and a lethal situation? 🤔 like, if someone's already down for the count, do they really care if you use a stun gun or a live round to get them outta there? 🤷‍♀️ meanwhile, law enforcement just seems to be playing a game of "dodge 'em" with these devices... aiming for the face or head like that's always gonna end well 😂. i mean, what even is de-escalation if they're still resorting to these "less lethal" options? 🤦‍♂️
 
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